[personal profile] minxybaby
For fuck sakes, I can't make a cute little dumb post on my dog without it turning into fucking drama. Good grief, last I checked last night, someone was commenting about how repulsive it is that my dog eats cat shit and then started to lecture me on how I should raise her. The tone I got from it was that she was better than me.

I was very polite and explained that everything is normal at my house and I think blocking off my litter box is a bad idea. End of story.. Ooops No it wasn't. I come back and she deleted all her comments and removed me from her friends list.

OK, normally I don't fucking care because it's usually someone that I have nothing in common with anyways. I actually liked this woman, and I wasn't even the one to get into the drama with her. I was still sleeping! lol



[livejournal.com profile] thekidsmum 8:10pm
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW ........... block off that litter box by facing it to the wall if there is a hood on it. Not good at all for the pup to be eating that stuff, let alone the smell of her breath and the kisses she gives you!!! EEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.
Sounds as if she is getting bored. Have you tried giving her a bone to chew on and some toys? If she continues, I would nip it in the bud immediately before she becomes chronic. If that means crating her while you are out, then so be it.

[livejournal.com profile] minxy_baby 08:27pm
I've never had a dog that didn't eat cat litter. I can't move it anywhere else because then the cats won't be able to access it. Vicki is crate trained, but if she's out it only takes her a second to sneak off into the basement without us noticing. She has tonnes of toys & bones all over the house and is always given cookies.

[livejournal.com profile] thekidsmum 1:19am
How about a baby gate for the basement stairs? You might be able to purchase a cat door and install it on your door?

[livejournal.com profile] flydovefly 8:34pm
my dog eats her own shit and the cats shit from the litter box. her breath stinks but it doesn't mean it's a chronic problem or ever will be. and i don't think this habit is a boredom habit, my dog is well occupied with all her toys. female dogs are notorious for eating shit.

[livejournal.com profile] thekidsmum 1:28am
Well I used to own a kennel with 30 german shepherd dogs and the only time that I ran across dogs eating shit was 1) not enough food, 2) habit forming from when they were pups 3) boredom. When I boarded dogs that used to eat their excrement, with permission from the owner, I would train them out of it by sprinking pepper on it, or putting garlic in their food - it worked well enough. They took one sniff of it and sneezed and walked away. If the cat is on a worming program that is one thing, but if it isn't then the dog can ingest the eggs.
Anyways, here is something that might be helpful:
Some dogs will learn this
behavior from other dogs. In some cases, eating feces may be an attention-seeking
behavior. For some dogs it is possibly due to anxiety or boredom. Most often the
motivation for eating feces is just not known.

Owners find this habit in their pet disgusting -- particularly when the consumed feces are
thrown up all over the new carpet. In addition to being socially unacceptable, eating feces
exposes the dog to parasites and diseases. So, what is a dog owner to do?

"Eating feces is a problem that is easier to prevent than to cure," says Dr. Eurell. "Don't
allow the opportunity to arise. Keep the dog's yard clean by disposing of feces promptly.
Move the cat box out of the dog's reach. If cleaning the outdoor area is not feasible, then
keep the dog on a leash or use a muzzle when outside."

There are some "cures" that have been used with limited success. Punishment generally only
works in the early stages, before the behavior becomes habitual. Feeding the dog MSG,
garlic, or pumpkin is believed to give feces a bad taste, making it less attractive to the dog.

[livejournal.com profile] flydovefly 8:33am
i'm sorry, but my dog goes through heart worm prevention and is checked for parasites. there is nothing indicating that she is ill with anything funky. because this conversation is being done over the internet, i can't tell if you're trying to lecture me on this topic or not. beagles eat shit because they can smell the nutrients from their food still. that was right from a breeder. my dog doesn't barf up the crap she eats either, neither does my aunts dog. anyway, i'm tired of arguing about this. some breeders make sure their dogs go to good homes, some are in it just for the cash. my point is, everyone is different with their animals. it's not these dogs are making a feast out of it. it's an occasional thing. and in fact my dog rarely does it now. i don't think this is anything to fret about.

[livejournal.com profile] thekidsmum 11:30am
I do not think it is necessary to make pot shots concerning breeders, nor wonder if I am lecturing you. This is someone else's journal and I feel that you should be respecting that and not trying to cause drama.

[livejournal.com profile] flydovefly 11:49am
causing drama? mmmhmm! who cares if her dog eats shit! my dog does too. woopdeedoo, we've commited crimes according to you.

kthanx.


I'm not going to reply to anybody's comment on my last post. I appreciate everything you guys have said. I know Vicki isn't repulsive and I'll still take her kisses. lmao Some of you have said that it's a defficiency in her diet, and I appreciate your knowledge. I never heard that before (well, I know the same is said about humans when they get cravings), but I know it's not uncommon for dogs to do this. Any humour you guys have given is also appreciated. I'm still laughing at how silly our pets are! [livejournal.com profile] flydovefly, thanks for giving your input. I agree with you completely and don't understand why she went off on you. And [livejournal.com profile] giruff, I am always happy to hear your thoughts because you have a lot of experience and I can learn from you.

While I'll continue to teach Vicki not to eat the cats' shit, I don't think I can stop her from sniffing their asses. lol

Date: 2005-11-10 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingbytch.livejournal.com
Every dog I have ever known, and I've owned several over the years.. have eaten out of the litter box... and occasionally their own. Is it kinda gross, well yeah. Is it a crime against fucking humanity? I think not. What a ridiculous reaction.

By the way, friends of mine have brought dogs over to my now cat only apartment, and their dogs need to be herded away from the litter box ass well. Dogs dig on cat shit munchies is all.

Date: 2005-11-10 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killbillydeluxe.livejournal.com
Wooohoo!Drama!

There was a SNL fake commercial for Litter Buddies.A toy for kids...The dressed up kitties litter droppings.

Don't know why but I totally though of that just now.

Date: 2005-11-10 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesa.livejournal.com
I remember that I especially enjoyed the part where they made party whistles from the cat's poo...

Yes, maybe I am mentally ill...

buwhahahahahahaha

Date: 2005-11-10 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phonographgirl.livejournal.com
Your icon is from the Hank Williams tribute album "Timeless", right?

...sorry, I am a big old music geek! :)

Date: 2005-11-10 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killbillydeluxe.livejournal.com
It is indeed!Not really a great record...But the picture is really nice.And I am a big lo music geek too!

And Ol' Hank is king of everything.

Date: 2005-11-10 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phonographgirl.livejournal.com
Yeah, I have the album too, so I totally know what you're talking about. :D

And I could not agree with you more on that last point.

Date: 2005-11-10 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesa.livejournal.com
Ummmmm....::::Putting down my Hostess cupcake:::::

:::Shudder::::

Sorry that's all the drama I have on my current medication...

*snort*

Date: 2005-11-10 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinksaltines.livejournal.com
WTF, indeed. ;p

I'm no canine expert, but I thought eating poop was just one of those things dogs did. Y'know, like drinking out of the toilet and sniffing people's crotches. ;3

*huggles you and Vicki* :)

Date: 2005-11-10 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phonographgirl.livejournal.com
I think [livejournal.com profile] flydovefly is a lot more intelligent than this first person who just seems to be talking out of her ass. :-)

Date: 2005-11-10 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flydovefly.livejournal.com
thank you :)

Date: 2005-11-10 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flydovefly.livejournal.com
"In addition to being socially unacceptable, eating feces exposes the dog to parasites and diseases."

so dogs sniffing each others asses is socially acceptable? dogs are dogs! they are cute, cuddly and wonderful friends, but you can't change their instincts.

Date: 2005-11-10 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judevenn.livejournal.com
Gee! Baby Dogs do eat so many strange stuff all the time!

My father was a very, very nervous/anxious person, and puppy was a baby full of life and mischieviousness(I hope that word exist! hehe), so, one day my dad had a nervous pill that he dropped on the floor by accident. As quickly as dad tried to recover it, Puppy had already eaten the Serax...

Lol, I can tell you that Puppy has been very, very quiet the rest of the day!

But seriously, with young dogs, we are prone to these behaviours. It's just so normal.

I am happy not being the dog of this drama person.

A nice day to you, lovely Robin! :)
Vicky is lucky to have you and your Husband

Date: 2005-11-10 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giruff.livejournal.com
WTF??

Shes your dog!!...and this is your journal!!

With all due respect I doubt that she could have kept an eye on all 30 dogs that they had. I certainly know mine would eat the cat poop given half a chance.

I'll always give suggestions as to what I use, or do with my lot but I'd never dream of forcing it up on someone. Afterall, most of thing tricks of the trade that I use have come from someone else somewhere along the line but just because it works for me doesnt mean it would work for everyone else.

Date: 2005-11-10 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_jeannie_/
My dog does that too, and it's nasty. :( We tried facing the litter boxes to the wall, but she still gets in there somehow. We have a small place so it's physically impossible to move the box out of the dog's reach. Dogs are gross, when you think about it. But I still love them. ;)

Date: 2005-11-10 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jbredrebel.livejournal.com
man that was totally fucked!
when pooky was vicki's age she ate shit too. all puppies eat shit.. it's just something dogs do! you just tell them no, and they learn.. it's no big deal!
i'm glad it all happened when you were sleeping (the row) .. bit weird though, eh!?

Date: 2005-11-10 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pandalamp.livejournal.com
lol it's amazing sometimes what people will cause drama over. My dog has always eaten whatever kind of shit he can find lol. He used to be particularly fond of the rabbit variety when we lived at the old house lol. I don't think it's an abnormal thing for dogs to do. Certainly nothing for that person to get all weird over lol.

Date: 2005-11-10 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightshade-7976.livejournal.com
I don't have much to add other than what everyone else has already said...There's no reason for her to have gotten that upset over something so trivial. Dogs do what dogs do, and while it may be disgusting for us, it's natural for them. :)

Date: 2005-11-10 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qlarue.livejournal.com
She must not have any pets or she would be familiar with all the gross and disgusting things they do. One of my cats will eat the puke of another cat and I once had a dog that ate crap. The vet said it was because dogs eat whatever smells good and the crap must have smelled good to him.

Nasty, but a fact of life I suppose.

Date: 2005-11-10 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flydovefly.livejournal.com
that's what i was told too..about why the eat their shit that is!

i'm actually quite glad that i found out about vicki eating shit, cause now i know my dog isn't some freak!

Date: 2005-11-10 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purplemoment.livejournal.com
all i can say is
LOL
this shit made me laugh.

vickie eat shit if you want your momma doesnt care. and neither do i, as my dog eats her own shit too!

nanny nanny boo boo!

Date: 2005-11-10 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ol-whatshername.livejournal.com
Holy cow! I think all pets eat weird things. Heck Whimbley eats more strange things in a day then most children do! *hugs* no silly drama kids. Puppy's will be puppy's and Vicki is a champ (see www.happydoggie.ca) LOL

Date: 2005-11-10 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redfernkitty.livejournal.com
how is a dog eating cat shit any different than a cat licking his own butt!

Date: 2005-11-10 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linnea.livejournal.com
dogs will eat any feces from any kind of animal, they are weird like that. Seems these people don't know dogs that well. I would just delete their comments. I'm for Vicki regardless of what she does.

Date: 2005-11-10 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kattgrrl.livejournal.com
What the fuck?

Every dog I've ever know eats out of the catbox if there is one available. My friend Julie calls it The Snack Box :)

Even if it grosses you out - I mean, it grosses me out too but - doe she have to make such a big fucking stink about it? Just let it go.... I see stuff on LJ that annoys me too, you know what I do? I pass by it and look at something else.

You need a hobby or something if you get that worked up over something silly. It's not like there are animals in danger or something.

Date: 2005-11-10 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -nnyl.livejournal.com
skippy used to roll in poop. when my mother in laws dog would poop skippy would run over and roll around in it. lol. ew

Date: 2005-11-11 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekidsmum.livejournal.com
I would just like to say that I deleted all of my comments so that more drama would NOT come out of this. It is too bad that my choice was not respescted and that they were put up for review once more for people to say derogatory things like I am "talking out of my ass". Wow. That is pretty rude. It is unfortunate that you sanction such remarks. This is exactly how things get out of hand and people get bashed unnecessarily. I really wish that you would have respected my choice to delete my comments and not to put them up like you have.
My intention was only to give suggestions. I am a professional cat breeder for over 30 years and used to own my own registered kennel, boarding and breeding german shepherds for 10 years. Obviously I have had my times with cleaning kennels etc....squeamish I am not. Unexperienced I am not.
For the books, I never said that your dog was repulsive. I put ewwwww as a joke.
I have no idea why people thought that I was worked up over this, because I WAS NOT. I gave some suggestions and then found what I believed to be some helpful hints on the internet and pasted them in. The quoted work started just after I said, "anyways, here is something that might be helpful:" I thought that you were putting out your dog eating feces for some feedback, that was all. This comment was to you, not flydovefly.
I deleted myself from your journal because I did not want to be the center of any drama.. It seems that you chose otherwise. I am sorry.

Date: 2005-11-11 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minxy-baby.livejournal.com
As I said, I was offline when all this took place. I have no idea why you were getting upset over [livejournal.com profile] flydovefly's comments. I don't understand why you deleted me from your f-list over something that was said by someone else... I wasn't even aware of anything that was going on.

Not everything I post is about looking for advice. I'm not so shy that I wouldn't ask for helpful opinions. There is also a nicer way to offer help, but as I've always said, the internet is a hard place to read people since you can't establish the tone of their voice or see the expression on their face.

I was offended by your giant EW's, and still don't think there is anything abnormal about Vicki. [livejournal.com profile] flydovefly was defending me because she took your advice as a bit harsh too.

I never questioned your experience, but a lot of people have owned dogs too and their opinions are just as valid as yours.

Dogs are disgusting, it's just a fact of life.

Date: 2005-11-11 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mysticchyna.livejournal.com
sorry bout the drama dear. you know how it is though, somewhere, in any community, *someone* thinks they are an expert on everything. meh.

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